New at Basel: Chopard Classic Manufactum with In-House Movement
Chopard has added a new collection, simply called Classic, to its portfolio, with the first watch in the new line, the Classic Manufactum, making its debut at the Baselworld watch fair. The understated design of the watches is inspired by the pocketwatches of the Belle Epoque, which helped establish the reputation of brand founder Louis-Ulysse Chopard. The classicism of the design starts with the porcelain-type dial and its shiny black Roman numerals and extends to the small seconds subdial at 6 o'clock, which features a railtrack graduation typical of vintage pocketwatches of the era; and the slender gold-toned hands. The 38-mm-diameter case is available in 18k rose, white or yellow gold and features an 18k gold crown and an exhibition caseback.The Classic Manufactum also contains a new movement, automatic Chopard Caliber 01.04-C, which was entirely developed in-house and produced in the workshops of Fleurier Ebauches, which makes the movements not destined for Chopard’s L.U.C

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