Is the Royal Oak Offshore Rubber Clad Iconic or Dated?
These are really starting to grow on me - particularly the black dial rubber clad.I see these as being iconic rather than dated. For me it's like a Ferrari F430. I don't see one drive past and think it's an old Ferrari, it's an F430 However someone I know is trying to put me off buying one saying it's dated now.What says the forum?

Question on ceramic
I just got my new ceramic the other day. First ever AP! When I got it I noticed there was some metallic mark on the bezel by the edge. Wasn't sure what it was, so I contacted AP service. They took it, said it was probably some transfer from some other material, and cleaned it off. I got it back yesterday, but now I noticed this other thing near the same area, and I'm pretty sure wasn't there before. Though it could just be part of the finishing? Wanted you guys to take a look and see what it was. I asked AP service about it, but I'm waiting for a response back. But the lady told me the watchmaker said the bezel was perfect now after they cleaned it. Screen Shot 2016-12-16 at 3.17.46 PM copy.jpg

AP ROO vs Hublot
The AP ROO and Hublots seem very similar in design and price. Which is more desirable and why?

De ville Co-Axial Rattrapante
Anyone own one of these. I am drooling over this. I would love to see pics if anyone has any. OMEGA Watches: De Ville Co-Axial Rattrapante - Steel on leather strap - 422.13.44.51.06.001THanks

production number per category ( a sensible calculation)
Quit ofter do some of us ask how many ref XXX or ref YYY are made per year.The answer is that we don't know but we can try to make an educated guess.One thing we know is that Patek makes about 50.000 watches per year and that the biggest part , a bit over 30% I once read in an interview with Mr Stern, are the Twenty-4 for womanSimple watches like the Calatrava are for sure the second biggest groupSo this is a calculation I made, feel free to argueTwenty-4 ( a bit more than 30%) so let's assume about 17.000 piecesCalatrava (more or less 20%) 11.000 watchesGondolo 5000Nautilus , my guess �� 4000 per year ( to make is simple 1000 per complication so 1000 chrono's in all materials, 1000 simple 5711 in all materials, 1000 5712 and 1000 annual calendars)Annual calendar ( all references all materials) 3500Worldtime ( all references) 3500Chronographs 2400 in total ( ref 5960 in all materials about 1200, 5170 about 700 and 5270 about 500)Golden Elipse ( not very popular) also 1000 in all sizes