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Planet ocean bezel flimsy?
Wondering if any of you 42mm owners have this problem. When you align the bezel at 12 position, press down at 1 o'clock, is there any play in the bezel moving up and down, it feels like it is flimsy, you can hear it squeaking. Wonder if this is normal or not.Just purchased a new planet ocean old series before the price increase, loving it so far except for the play in my bezel, will try to post pics, thx.

Best Chronograph: Speedmaster v. SMP (non-Bond w Sword Hands)
Looking next for a 3 dial chronograph to round out my collection.Lots of Speedmaster info on TRF and is seems like a very good choice. I have tried it on and like the fit and feel.I do like the look of the old style SMP though (I have the 2254.50 and love it).Any advice on the better choice (with reasons) would be appreciated. Also, if you have an alternative chronograph to suggest (it doesn't have to be an Omega) then please do. Pictures would help if possible. I already know about the Daytona (and like it) but it is more than I want to pay right now so I am looking at the under $5K watches.Many thanks.

Ref. 5204P - where is the market on that one?
Let me begin by saying wow what a great reference. Yes I am biased when it comes to Patek's but I think they got it right with this one. Not a Ref. 5004 and i'll give you that, but not everyone is also comfortable with the size on a 5004.Well, incase you want one. What should you pay. The white dial is discontinued and not many have exchanged hands as far as my knowledge goes. Also there are two variations, the first 10 to 15 watches delivered had a white/beige dial. almost the color found on the 5004J. those watches obviously went to VIP's and to get your hands on one would super special. Later the dial was changed to white and production was tight.The black dial however, I personally have been offered one for 240, another for 245 and another for 250 and just yesterday 270 was my offer. All different watches, all sealed, all my name on papers. I think it's safe to say if you can't get your hands on a Ref. 5370P (and many willing buyers won't) a 5204P is an insane options and it's a pe

comparing two icons
I just had a recent INCOMING, and I thought I would share some thoughts with you on my two Pateks: the 5712 1a and the 5167a.1. The 5712 has more wrist presence, the wider lugs and the tapering of the bracelet makes the watch wear bigger than it really is. The 5167 feels way more sporty and nimble. It is the perfect sports watch in that you don't know that you are wearing it compared to some of the monster watches that have a lot of heft. For this reason it the perfect activity watch as it less likely to get caught on things. Plus the rubber will make it clean up easier. 2. The 5712 does not make as much noise as the 5167. Not hearing the whizz makes me think, are you still working?! However it does take some time to adjust to the 5167 noise, if I was not a member on this forum, I would have been concerned! Now the noise is like an old friend. 3. The 5712 feels more dressy. However both have slim profiles that will easily fit under a dress shirt cuff. Don't get me wrong,