Royal Oak Jumbo Chrono Tourbillion
Guys,This watch is my #1 dream watch. It is absolutely stunning, with its large size and beautiful strap. This would be a no brainer buy for me, however the hefty MSRP puts it so far outside of my budget that I can't justify the cost.I spoke to a couple traders in London who said they sell for around ?75,000 (120,000 USD) almost new (1 year old). This got me thinking. If they are indicating a price of ?75k, then I think the watch can possibly be had for significantly less than their indicative price. From my limited experience, these traders tend to ask for quite high prices, so if they are starting at ?75k then I can't help but think there is still more room to negotiate.What do you guys think this watch could be had for via a grey dealer new or lightly used? I checked chrono24 and the prices were far too high. Before eliminating this as a potential option, I wanted to ask you guys.Thanks

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