Bulgari Octo Bi-Retro Steel Ceramic Watch
I discussed a little while ago about how Bulgari (Bvlgari) incorporated Gerald Genta, and Daniel Roth (brands it already owned) into the Bulgari brand. You can read all about that and see a video interview with Bulgari talking about it here. The first product of this digestive affair is this watch. Basically a re-branded Gerald Genta Octo Bi-Retro, that has a bit more Bulgari-ness to it. The overall shape and dimensions of the watch are the same, but styling has been "face-lifted" and injected with some of the Bulgari DNA. It feels like the outcome of a? mad scientist combing the DNA of multiple animals, err, I mean watch brands. Why must these men play god!? This horological Chimera is without true soul. Soon we will have an army of "Bvulgenta" and "Daniel Gari" watches all over the place.Clearly the Gerald Genta style fits? better with Bulgari, than does Daniel Roth. I am curious to see what the later mixture with Bulgari will result in. Maybe I will find out shortly when I am at Bas

Then we have a Patek Philippe reference 3450, which by itself is worthy of attention
Then we have a Patek Philippe reference 3450, which by itself is worthy of attention, but this example has a plant built for the exhibition. This transparent case was built only at the express request of the customer, and only four were seen at the auction.

About to take the plunge....Again.....
Recently picked up the 5970 and am contemplating a 5980. Is it a good fit? In dressier clothes most of the time, thus my contemplation. Thanks. The collection to date:

Request: Before and After Polishing Pics
Does anyone have any pics of their PP before and after it was polished? I've been offered a 2009 Nautilus that was a daily watch, and as you can imagine the bracelet is fairly scuffed up, but the crystal has no scratched. Prior to picking making a decision I wanted to find out if sent to PP for a full service what I can expect in terms of results. Thanks.

Got a DJ41....guess I was wrong.
My first Rolex....love it...DJ41 with Jubilee and fluted bezel....Rhodium (stunning)...I convinced myself I could wear it anywhere, at anytime before I bought it.Now I know it is really shiny but that may change over the years, but as of now, I see I was wrong in thinking I could wear it at all times and it not look or feel too dressy. So I am now thinking I need a Sub for when I am unshaven and in VERY casual clothes....I know they are $7,500 to $9,500 for a new or slightly used one. I sometimes see a $5,500 used one on this and other watch forums, but I don't quite know enough to know if I should steer clear of anything less than say, $7,500.FYI, I stayed away from Sub's to begin with, due to my many Seiko's that I thought would serve the same purpose and of course still do, but I really like how I feel when I wear a Rolex and want to have that feeling, even when I am uber casual. So, any advice on how to find a $5K or less quality Sub (meaning no service needed to feel comfortable