World Time 5110P is the most photogenic beauty, but wasn't for me
To add variety to my collection, I have wanted a world time watch for years. I have always drooled over PP's choices, especially the 5110P. In my opinion the 5110P is the most beautiful watch in photographs. Its balanced design is superb. It's a photogenic beauty. BUT, on my wrist, it was a complete disappointment. To me the blue was much darker in the real world, unlike the lovely color seen in pics with ideal lighting. And at 37mm, it got lost on my wrist. I tried it on several times over the years, but couldn't pull the trigger. One time I even tried it on and a 5130 on at the same store. It was like Goldilocks and the 3 Bears. You know, I found the one that was just right. I could feel it. I continued my search for another year and finally found a great deal used, pulled the trigger, and I am SO happy now with my 5130J, and my 3rd PP in the family.Those original, heritage, world-time classic hands of the 5130 grew on me. Now I like them. The size and fit is excellent for my wrist

Possible discount on 5712's?
I am going to order one monday from the Paris boutique, was wondering if a discount was a possible thing or if it's no use to mention it?Since in many boutiques, Panerai for example, they look at you when you ask for one as if you were crazy, if it's the same thing with PP better to avoid than to get the cold shower answer: Non Monsieur, Patek philippe does not do discounts, with that special tone of voice, where you have the impression the guy is thinking you are buying a 20K + watch and you want a discount? How very cheap of you��Went there just one time they were quite courteous, since there was nobody we talked about watches with the salesman and I tried a few, quite nice, whereas in some boutiques the experience was terrible, again Panerai for example, you feel like a homeless who came in to ask for a few bucks by the way they talk to you, I don't know in the US but here some boutiques and AD's are awful whereas some are great.The worse is in Ukraine where I live, in luxury watch

Two choices
Guys I have found a great opportunity. I have found someone who have two lovely PAM's in mint shape and he wants to sell just one. I can pick up either the 233 or a 422. Forget cost and other pieces, which is a more desireable reference. I have tried both on and love them both.

WTB Pam 111 BNIB
Hi Everyone,I'm looking for a BNIB Pam 111. Open to LNIB but with warranty if possible.thanks everyone!Arvin

Flipping
Stop it. Just stop. I'm speaking to those that are regular consumers like myself who are fortunate enough to have the opportunity to buy a premium piece aka hard-to-get piece at an AD for retail.My advice to you if you fall into this category is to not flip the watch. Either pass, or keep. There are unintended consequences of your decision to flip a watch. AD's could and will literally lose the Rolex line. It's happened, it will happen again, and we are responsible if we are part of this problem.There are many, many negative outcomes that may play out as a result of flipping. For what? $5 grand? An easy $5 grand sounds nice, and while that may be on the higher end, it is possible. Looking at the big picture though, it's nothing and it's not worth it.