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44mm Rose Gold Offshore
Guys,I am really loving the way the 44mm ROO fills my wrist and there is only one left amongst all the AD of London. Does the 44mm Rose Gold Offshore look odd with a suit or tux? Is it inappropriate for a work atmosphere?Is it not the right watch for someone who doesn't have a few other, dressier watches?The dealer said they are releasing a really nice leather strap for the Rose Gold Offshore. Have any of you seen the watch on a nice leather, or even better, a horn leather strap? Does the Rubber look better? Pics would be great.Thanks,Farris

2011 Ti Blue 8500 -- PO or Chrono?
Have the Chrono's come out yet, anyone been able to get one?I still think the PO three hander looks better, more simple and uncluttered. What are pros and cons of the Chrono vs the three hander?And which would you choose, and why?

Aqua Terra 8500 41mm
I'm trying to help a friend get the best deal on a watch, and am wondering what a good price is on the full size SS 8500, BNIB from an AD. Thanks!

Trying to buy a 5170 -- what am I doing wrong?
I'm in the market for a new 5170G-010, the white gold / black dial version with Breguet numerals that Patek stopped making last year. Even though discontinued, they seem to be abundantly in stock at both ADs and grey market dealers.I'd prefer to go the AD route, but it seems none in the US or Europe are willing to discuss much of a discount (a couple thousand dollars off at most). For a $81,000 MSRP slow-selling watch, I'm surprised I cannot get better traction anywhere. The grey market dealers are selling for ~25% off.Maybe the problem is that I'm not an existing customer? In my ideal scenario, I'd locate a watch in Europe, negotiate a 20-30% discount and then benefit from the VAT refund when having the watch shipped to the U.S.Can anyone provide any feedback or advice? Maybe my expectations for AD discounts are simply unrealistic and I should go grey market?