I did not want to wait
Long story short, I have been looking at the 5167 for years. However, I was never really serious about it based on the cost. But as I wind my way down the watch path, I find myself always gravitating towards a few specific things. And this is not to say that I don't like other things about watches. Yet, if I am to find what I believe my perfect watch (which I am still on the hunt for, even if it is not possible), these are the things I like.Smaller size. Still 40mm, but on the small size. Everything today seems so big. I am not a big guy. 5'10 and 175 lbs with a 7 wrist. And while I love some of my bigger watches. If I am picking what I really prefer, it is a Daytona sized watch. Lume. I cant get over it. I just love it. A date. I am ok and appreciate no date watches. In fact, in many ways, I prefer them. But if I am going for my perfect watch, I do prefer a date. Water depth rating enough so that I can go anywhere and do anything. (I will never dive, so that is not a

Two Gentlemen Discussing Which Next Patek? or--
I was walking down Bond Street in London. Thanks goodness-- the boutique was closed today and it is my only day in the town. However I thought about what these two blokes might be discussing outside the shopWhich Piece is next? or are they complaining about the cost? or perhaps discussing which piece they just purchased.

Patek 3563/2 Beyer
Hi folks,Just interested to see if anyone has any info on this model? I see it is a back wind movement. A local auction site is offering one for sale for what seems to be a reasonable price. Anything to look out for?Is the Beyer association worth anything? ThanksGreg

Why no Coke?
One of my grails is the All White Gold GMT II. I am dreaming of course, don't have the cash for any AG model, but it's my fantassy so what the heck. My first Rolex ever was a 1986 Fat Lady Coke GMT II. I have nothing against the Pepsi, but just really liked the contrast of the Black/Red over the Blue/red. The AWG Pepsi is a beautiful watch, and if I could I would buy one, but if Rolex can do a Blue and Red bezel, why not a Black and red? A color is a color, so technically, I can't believe there is any reason, and this is a marketing choice. My question is: (again) Why? Is the Pepsi that much more popular that in the AG model they don't have to even produce one? I certainly wouldn't think so. Basel 2018 prediction: All White Gold Coke GMT II

Rolex for the active individual?
Hi TRF, first post here! I֪ looking to pick up a new (to me) Rolex. I have a 6542 that my dad�� dad gifted to him when he graduated from the Air Force and I have an AP 15202. Both watches I feel are too fragile for what I want and neither do I wear all day every day. I purchased an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean back in 09 as my first, nice watch and I��e thrown everything at it: surfing, snowboarding, dirt bike rides, backpacking, etc. and the watch still looks great and keeps great time without a service. However, I֪ looking to upgrade the Omega to a Rolex.I֪ familiar with the tried and tested criteria Rolex watches go through, but I֪ curious when they started testing the watches beyond the limits the watches would ever see. I��e narrowed my choices down to a Submariner or a Sea Dweller (40mm). I֪ looking for this new watch go go everywhere with me to get knocked around and build its own character. How far back I should narrow my selection to, knowing the watch has gone through the gamut