An unbelievable story
Since I have been a member here, I have done a lot of reading and learned a lot. Not just about Rolex in general, but other brands as well. Unfortunately earlier this year before I joined the forum, I seem to have purchased a fake Breitling Navitimer 01. At the time, I thought I took the proper percautions by having the watch verified by an AD in Beverly Hills that amazingly enough serviced the watch and actually has a warranty on it. I was guaranteed by the certified watchmaker at the AD that it was 100% authentic and I had nothing to worry about because he serviced the watch himself. It wasn't until I put the watch up for sale on eBay that I was notified by a member that it wasn't authentic. I didn't believe it at first and I was directed to the Breitling source forum for further discussion. Even at that point I didn't believe them. I then took the watch to the AD and had the watchmaker reverify the watch again. He opened the case and confirmed that it was the watch that he completed

Patek: Service, Production, Values and the Company
It seems to me that there are quite a few threads in them with themes about where Patek stands today with respect to;- production quality and qc- service quality and times- the products- what collectors feel about direction of the company under Thierry- the PP seal- volumes of manufacture- investment/residuals/depreciation... and so on and so on.I resolutely feel that all these themes are interrelated and for this reason I wanted to start a consolidated thread on this forum where we could all give our two cents about the state of the company.I don't believe that this has been done yet hence my attempt at this thread and with that being said, I I'll go first.I'll start by saying that I will not consider ANY other watch manufacturer for any product over $25,000. No chance. I consider Patek today the pre-eminent watch maker with an unmatched brand and in the vast majority of cases, an unmatched product.But I have a problem and this problem is OVERPRODUCTION. I believe that PP are produ

Have we ever rated straps ?
Only a few days ago I posted pics of a new strap on my PatekI really loved it and I think I was not the only oneit was this watch / strapI just made a few macro shots ... no not from the watch but this time from the strap. Look at these and tell me how you would rate it. Do realize these are macro shots so imperfections would not come as a surprise. What duo you think about the pattern, the 'character', the finishing of the side, the stitching, the ....Do you think this is real croc or fake ?Is it a cheap, average or expensive strap ?Just curious to know what others thinkDo we have some well informed strap purists who can tell more ?for the fun I added a poll ...

PP 5164 Service Intervals
Hey guys,I am considering buying a PP 5164 Travel Time and the watch in question is approximately 18 months old. I am wondering what the service intervals are on a watch like this.For my Rolex watches I push the service intervals out to around 7-8 years (some as far as 10) and I have never had any issues. Because the PP is a completely different animal, I am wondering if I am going to need to send this particular watch away 2-3 years after I buy it because it is mint preowned.Another question I have is about PP service in general. I have owned a couple APs and they have excellent customer service and fairly quick service turnaround times. It seems that the consensus on PP is that service is glacially slow and fairly expensive. Is warranty work quicker? Do most owners just accept this fact as part of the ownership experience?The last thing I want to do is buy this Patek, get two years wear out of it and then have to send it away for an 8 month service.Any insight is greatly appreciated!

The Verdict and Chosen two.
For those of you that have been following my previous thread titled two have to go! Help me decide . I have made a decision.Out of the four watches I posted, I am keeping just one. The 5513.I have chosen to sell the 16570 (already sold) 14060M (already sold) and 16710 Coke.BUT!Yesterday I added a watch to make it my second. A K serial 16710 Pepsi with SEL AND lug holes. And a beautiful faded bezel and kit.I'm now happy to say that these are my two watches. K serial 167101975 5513 (I plan on selling insert and rivet bracelet in order to source period correct parts)From here I only plan to add after the house Reno's and wedding is out of the way! Unless I win the lottery of course :P (I have been toying with the idea of a $2k work beater but we will see)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk