Cabestan Trapezium Watch
Trapezium is a word that sounds both geometric and acrobatic. Does that mean it is both difficult to compute and perform? Yes. Those adjectives more than likely define this new watch by Cabestan well. The new Trapezium is an evolved version of their famous Winch Tourbillon Vertical watch and is the brainchild of Cabestan's own (and very talented) Eric Coudray.Among other things Coudray is the guy behind the Jaeger-LeCoultre Gyrotourbillon. He thrives in producing highly complex, highly accurate tiny machines that few other people can make. Using the same principles as the Winch Tourbillon Vertical, the Trapezium offers a drum and fusee & chain system (with tourbillon) for telling the time and making the watch operate. Compared to the original, I believe that the overall system actually works better here, and the name of the Trapezium comes form the case itself. What is that all about? In Cabestan's own words:"In Euclidian geometry, a quadrilateral with one pair of parallel sides is

AP Diver Woes and Wear?
Hey all, new to the forum but have been lurking for a while. Anyways I am planning to add a diver to my collection and have been weighing a couple of options: the Blancpain Bathyscaphe Chronograph in ceramic, the Hulk Submariner, and the AP Diver in SS. After trying all of them on, I prefer the AP, but have heard bad things about wear and tear on the bezel/scratches on the case. I'd like to see any pics AP diver owners may have showing wear on the steel if possible just to see what everyone is talking about.Also, how does the AP diver compare as a daily wear to a Sub-C?Thanks in advance!

Trying to buy a 5170 -- what am I doing wrong?
I'm in the market for a new 5170G-010, the white gold / black dial version with Breguet numerals that Patek stopped making last year. Even though discontinued, they seem to be abundantly in stock at both ADs and grey market dealers.I'd prefer to go the AD route, but it seems none in the US or Europe are willing to discuss much of a discount (a couple thousand dollars off at most). For a $81,000 MSRP slow-selling watch, I'm surprised I cannot get better traction anywhere. The grey market dealers are selling for ~25% off.Maybe the problem is that I'm not an existing customer? In my ideal scenario, I'd locate a watch in Europe, negotiate a 20-30% discount and then benefit from the VAT refund when having the watch shipped to the U.S.Can anyone provide any feedback or advice? Maybe my expectations for AD discounts are simply unrealistic and I should go grey market?

My watch box
How does my watch box looks like right now? Still working on it. Plan to let go the Explorers and the Daytonas, but don't know what to buy to fill the other two empty space if I let go the Explorers and Daytonas.I am thinking ALS time zone and one Patek annual calendar with moon phase, how do you guys think?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Patek 5131g
Is 94k euro for a brand new 5131 white gold model representing good value ?I don't know if I should spend this amount on it?